swooperman
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Long term territory here, so long term Betfair havent even got a market for it.
England seem to have finally got their acts together regarding targetting the ICC Cricket World Cup. Its a trophy theyve never won. They defend the 20/20 World Cup this autumn in Sri Lanka & I think they're worth a punt there, but there's a bit more luck involved in that & although weve won it, I dont think we're as value as we are in the 50 over format.
Its played in Australia in early 2015. We're obviously targetting it as we've talked the Aussies into playing back to back Ashes next year so as its not in the same winter, a problem that has plagued us before, meaning a tired squad.
We're all over the Aussies like a rash at the moment. They are experimenting with their side, yet I dont see ours changing much in the next 3 years. Nobody, barring injury, will retire in that time. Bell & Trott will be 33-34, Broad 29, Anderson 32. If KP reverses his quit decision we will be even stronger in a match winning capacity, though possibly not in a unity one.
The other nations arent in this position, their teams are still being worked out. Not a single one is in as strong a position as England.
Cook may have moved on into the test captaincy by then, but will still be young enough to play ODI's, so I dont see him giving up the job.
Here is the clincher for me. The ICC have recently changed the rules & brought in a ball change rule, meaning 2 new balls are used in 1 one innings. Where England have fallen down in places overseas, more sub continent than Australia to be fair, is forcing the pace once the ball has gone soft. This is playing straight into Englands hands. Therefore they've gone back to core value selection in picking the best test bowlers in Anderson, Broad, Finn & as in tests we have plenty of back up in Tremlett & Onions, not to mention Broad & Bresnan being quality all rounders, plus one of the best spinners around in all conditions.
Why then, are we 6th favourites for the 20/20 & 50 overs game? No idea tbh, as I think odds of 7/1 & 8/1 are a steal. I'll stress though that the 50 overs is my main bet by far.
The Champions Trophy is next year in England, & I expect us to shorten after that. We also play the Aussie s home & away next year, & I think we'll shorten again. The key is though, that although we'll have a test tour in the months going into the WC, there'll be a decent break going in. That hasnt been the case before & crucially wont be the case in Oz next winter either, meaning we might actually lengthen. To prove the point, we lost 6-1 in Oz after the last Ashes, but we were a tired & very different team.
We've always been ok at home, now we are built to improve away
England seem to have finally got their acts together regarding targetting the ICC Cricket World Cup. Its a trophy theyve never won. They defend the 20/20 World Cup this autumn in Sri Lanka & I think they're worth a punt there, but there's a bit more luck involved in that & although weve won it, I dont think we're as value as we are in the 50 over format.
Its played in Australia in early 2015. We're obviously targetting it as we've talked the Aussies into playing back to back Ashes next year so as its not in the same winter, a problem that has plagued us before, meaning a tired squad.
We're all over the Aussies like a rash at the moment. They are experimenting with their side, yet I dont see ours changing much in the next 3 years. Nobody, barring injury, will retire in that time. Bell & Trott will be 33-34, Broad 29, Anderson 32. If KP reverses his quit decision we will be even stronger in a match winning capacity, though possibly not in a unity one.
The other nations arent in this position, their teams are still being worked out. Not a single one is in as strong a position as England.
Cook may have moved on into the test captaincy by then, but will still be young enough to play ODI's, so I dont see him giving up the job.
Here is the clincher for me. The ICC have recently changed the rules & brought in a ball change rule, meaning 2 new balls are used in 1 one innings. Where England have fallen down in places overseas, more sub continent than Australia to be fair, is forcing the pace once the ball has gone soft. This is playing straight into Englands hands. Therefore they've gone back to core value selection in picking the best test bowlers in Anderson, Broad, Finn & as in tests we have plenty of back up in Tremlett & Onions, not to mention Broad & Bresnan being quality all rounders, plus one of the best spinners around in all conditions.
Why then, are we 6th favourites for the 20/20 & 50 overs game? No idea tbh, as I think odds of 7/1 & 8/1 are a steal. I'll stress though that the 50 overs is my main bet by far.
The Champions Trophy is next year in England, & I expect us to shorten after that. We also play the Aussie s home & away next year, & I think we'll shorten again. The key is though, that although we'll have a test tour in the months going into the WC, there'll be a decent break going in. That hasnt been the case before & crucially wont be the case in Oz next winter either, meaning we might actually lengthen. To prove the point, we lost 6-1 in Oz after the last Ashes, but we were a tired & very different team.
We've always been ok at home, now we are built to improve away
Like Hornets has got the patience and discipline to wait 3 years for a payout 
Ive never actually done that, its like when i read a book i always end up missing loads of it